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Can't find my Red Pitayas on the Network
Sven SM6FMB
#2814 Hi! Soon I will be really "crazy" if I do not find a solution how to find my Red Pitay's on the local network! I have find one of them but not the other RP. I do not know how I find it! Hermes Lite 2 and other Ethernet devices are found very easy by the router but not the Red Pitay's. Sometimes I can see them in Ethernet device list but without IP number and sometimes not! I am not the best man regarding network technology but I understand the basic and little more! 73 de Sven SM6FMB |
Bob Wilson, N6TV
#2815 Are you trying to access two RPs from the same computer? If so, you have to rename the DLL so that each one is accessed independently, and use two separate SkimSrv directories (SkimSrv and SkimSrv2), one per Hermes DLL. Let's say the two RPs have MAC addresses ending in 1111 and 2222. You must rename HermesIntf.dll to SkimSrv\ HermesIntf_1111.dll SkimSrv2\ HermesIntf_2222.dll Of course everything has to be on the same subnet (same first 3 parts of IP address). So, if your Windows PC is using WiFi and is on 192.168.1.1., but your Router puts Ethernet devices like the RPs on a different subnet, like 192.168.0.1, then they won't be able to find each other. 73, Bob, N6TV toggle quoted messageShow quoted text On Thu, Feb 7, 2019 at 1:57 PM Sven SM6FMB <svempa42@...> wrote: Hi! |
Drew Vonada-Smith K3PA
#2816 Is it static vs DHCP thing? |
Pete Smith
#2817 Hi Sven - Bob makes some good points, and it sounds like he may have put his finger on your problem. Let me just add that I've noticed that various routers can vary considerably in how quickly they recognize the presence of a new device. My current FIOS router seems to be quicker than my old one. 73, Pete N4ZRCheck out the Reverse Beacon Network at <http://reversebeacon.net>, now spotting RTTY activity worldwide. For spots, please use your favorite "retail" DX cluster. On 2/7/2019 4:57 PM, Sven SM6FMB wrote: toggle quoted messageShow quoted text Hi! |
Sven SM6FMB
#2818 Hi! Thank you all to answer very quick to my urgent request! I have had a working setup with both RP1 and RP2 working since month back. But I starting changing things. Starting using new SparkSDR for Red Pitaya on my RP2 and on my RP1 CW Skimmer and RTTY Skimmer. Working great! From the beginning I used old SparkSDR, CW Skimmer and RTTY on RP1 and Red Pitaya FT8 TRX 1.0 on RP2. Was also working great. Now working with SparkSDR, CW Skimmer and RTTY on RP2 and RP1 could not be found! I haven't at any time operated two CW Skimmer at one computer. I have renamed in my SkimSrv folder my HermesIntf.dll to Hermesintf_61a2.dll which is my RP2 and also my content in CWSL_Tee.cfg to HermesIntf_61a2 64. Is there any other files to be changed with to 61a2? The other RP1 has 5db6, the one not found by router. I do not use any router on WiFi network, just connected with Ethernet cables. My default sub net is 192.168.0.x But I suspect that maybe my RP1 has in someway changed sub net. Any tool/method to check that up? I have tried to use static IP address but there where no success with that. Now just DHCP running to find IP addresses for my devices My big problem is to see both my RP’s in Ethernet Device List in Router with IP addresses! Big thanks in advance to help me out. 73 de Sven SM6FMB |
Bob Wilson, N6TV
#2819 On Thu, Feb 7, 2019 at 10:17 PM Sven SM6FMB <svempa42@...> wrote:
Well, perhaps you can try to change things back to the way they were before?
Why SparkSDR? What's the advantage? Are you using a Beta version? Did you try to power cycle the Red Pitayas so they could obtain a new IP address from your Router via DHCP?
I assume you mean CW Skimmer Server, not CW Skimmer.
If you are starting the Skimmer with the Aggregator, you must also update CWSL_Tee.cfg in the Aggregator's folder.
See above.
One is found, one is not?
Yes. Connect a USB cable to the secondmicroUSB port on the Red Pitaya (not the one used to provide power, but the one next to it). This will be recognized by Windows as an FTDI virtual serial port. If necessary, use the Windows Device Manager to determine the new serial port number. Next use a terminal program like PuTTY to connect to create a new SERIAL connection to the new COM port, using 115200 baud, N, 8, 1. This will give you a Unix command prompt. The command ip addresswill show you something like this (if using the Ubuntu Linux distribution): root@rp-f05272:~# ip address 1: lo: <LOOPBACK,UP,LOWER_UP> mtu 65536 qdisc noqueue state UNKNOWN group default link/loopback 00:00:00:00:00:00 brd 00:00:00:00:00:00 inet 127.0.0.1/8 scope host lo valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever inet6 ::1/128 scope host valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever 2: eth0: <BROADCAST,MULTICAST,UP,LOWER_UP> mtu 1500 qdisc pfifo_fast state UP group default qlen 1000 link/ether 00:26:32:f0:52:72 brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff inet 169.254.50.143/16 brd 169.254.255.255 scope link eth0 valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever inet 10.0.0.89/24 brd 10.0.0.255 scope global dynamic eth0 valid_lft 657577sec preferred_lft 657577sec 3: sit0@NONE: <NOARP> mtu 1480 qdisc noop state DOWN group default link/sit 0.0.0.0 brd 0.0.0.0 Or it will look slightly different if using Pavel's Alpine Linux image: rp-f050eb:~# ip address 1: lo: <LOOPBACK,UP,LOWER_UP> mtu 65536 qdisc noqueue state UNKNOWN qlen 1 link/loopback 00:00:00:00:00:00 brd 00:00:00:00:00:00 inet 127.0.0.1/8 scope host lo valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever inet6 ::1/128 scope host valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever 2: eth0: <BROADCAST,MULTICAST,UP,LOWER_UP> mtu 1500 qdisc pfifo_fast state UP qlen 1000 link/ether 00:26:32:f0:50:eb brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff inet 10.0.0.88/24 brd 10.0.0.255 scope global eth0 valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever inet6 2601:646:9380:35c0:226:32ff:fef0:50eb/64 scope global dynamic valid_lft 174741sec preferred_lft 174741sec inet6 fe80::226:32ff:fef0:50eb/64 scope link valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever 3: sit0@NONE: <NOARP> mtu 1480 qdisc noop state DOWN qlen 1 link/sit 0.0.0.0 brd 0.0.0.0 One of the inet addresses should be on the same subnet as your Router.
Whatever you changed in Linux to assign it a static IP address probably messed up its ability to request an IP address via DHCP. You can reboot the system while connected via the serial port to see any error messages at boot time regarding obtaining an IP address from your Router.
That will only work if your RP is properly requesting an IP address via DHCP, and getting one. 73, Bob, N6TV |
Sven SM6FMB
#2820 My comments: Den 2019-02-08 kl. 08:17, skrev Bob Wilson, N6TV: toggle quoted messageShow quoted text On Thu, Feb 7, 2019 at 10:17 PM Sven SM6FMB <svempa42@...> wrote: I have had a working setup with both RP1 and RP2 working since month back. But I starting changing things. Well, perhaps you can try to change things back to the way they were before? Well, well, remembering things is not my strong thing! Ask my wife! Starting using new SparkSDR for Red Pitaya on my RP2 and on my RP1 CW Skimmer and RTTY Skimmer. Working great! Why SparkSDR? What's the advantage? Are you using a Beta version? Did you try to power cycle the Red Pitayas so they could obtain a new IP address from your Router via DHCP? SparkSDR is a great multifunctional program. If you want to save system resources and have FT8, JT9/65, PSK 31/63, WSPR, running at the same time . I have used it since a year back on my Hermes Lite 2 which in itself is a great receiver/tranceiver. Now is SparkSDR 2 on market, also for Red Pitaya, in a release candidate version. Quickly developing. Now working with SparkSDR, CW Skimmer and RTTY on RP2 and RP1 could not be found! I assume you mean CW Skimmer Server, not CW Skimmer. Correction: Now working with SparkSDR, Skimmer Server and RTTY Skimmer Server on RP2 and RP1 could not be found! I have renamed in my SkimSrv folder my HermesIntf.dll to Hermesintf_61a2.dll which is my RP2 and also my content in CWSL_Tee.cfg to HermesIntf_61a2 64. If you are starting the Skimmer with the Aggregator, you must also update CWSL_Tee.cfg in the Aggregator's folder. I do not start it with the Aggregator. I start it directly in SkimSrv folder. Is there any other files to be changed with to 61a2? See above. The other RP1 has 5db6, the one not found by router. One is found, one is not? Yes my 61a2 is ok the other one is not. But I suspect that maybe my RP1 has in someway changed sub net. Any tool/method to check that up? Yes. Connect a USB cable to the secondmicroUSB port on the Red Pitaya (not the one used to provide power, but the one next to it). This will be recognized by Windows as an FTDI virtual serial port. If necessary, use the Windows Device Manager to determine the new serial port number. Next use a terminal program like PuTTY to connect to create a new SERIAL connection to the new COM port, using 115200 baud, N, 8, 1. This will give you a Unix command prompt. The command ip addresswill show you something like this (if using the Ubuntu Linux distribution): root@rp-f05272:~# ip address 1: lo: <LOOPBACK,UP,LOWER_UP> mtu 65536 qdisc noqueue state UNKNOWN group default link/loopback 00:00:00:00:00:00 brd 00:00:00:00:00:00 inet 127.0.0.1/8 scope host lo valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever inet6 ::1/128 scope host valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever 2: eth0: <BROADCAST,MULTICAST,UP,LOWER_UP> mtu 1500 qdisc pfifo_fast state UP group default qlen 1000 link/ether 00:26:32:f0:52:72 brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff inet 169.254.50.143/16 brd 169.254.255.255 scope link eth0 valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever inet 10.0.0.89/24 brd 10.0.0.255 scope global dynamic eth0 valid_lft 657577sec preferred_lft 657577sec 3: sit0@NONE: <NOARP> mtu 1480 qdisc noop state DOWN group default link/sit 0.0.0.0 brd 0.0.0.0 Or it will look slightly different if using Pavel's Alpine Linux image: rp-f050eb:~# ip address 1: lo: <LOOPBACK,UP,LOWER_UP> mtu 65536 qdisc noqueue state UNKNOWN qlen 1 link/loopback 00:00:00:00:00:00 brd 00:00:00:00:00:00 inet 127.0.0.1/8 scope host lo valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever inet6 ::1/128 scope host valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever 2: eth0: <BROADCAST,MULTICAST,UP,LOWER_UP> mtu 1500 qdisc pfifo_fast state UP qlen 1000 link/ether 00:26:32:f0:50:eb brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff inet 10.0.0.88/24 brd 10.0.0.255 scope global eth0 valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever inet6 2601:646:9380:35c0:226:32ff:fef0:50eb/64 scope global dynamic valid_lft 174741sec preferred_lft 174741sec inet6 fe80::226:32ff:fef0:50eb/64 scope link valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever 3: sit0@NONE: <NOARP> mtu 1480 qdisc noop state DOWN qlen 1 link/sit 0.0.0.0 brd 0.0.0.0 One of the inet addresses should be on the same subnet as your Router. I will look at this when I am in contact with RP1. Just now only U-Boot 2018.01 (Oct 20 2018 - 19:53:32 +0000) Model: Red Pitaya Board Board: Xilinx Zynq loading. Seems that I missing something! Where is the image! Closer look showed a problem with SD Card. No contact. Formated a new card and copied image to the card. Now I had a functional RP1 again. I have tried to use static IP address but there where no success with that. Now just DHCP running to find IP addresses for my devices Whatever you changed in Linux to assign it a static IP address probably messed up its ability to request an IP address via DHCP. You can reboot the system while connected via the serial port to see any error messages at boot time regarding obtaining an IP address from your Router. My big problem is to see both my RP’s in Ethernet Device List in Router with IP addresses! That will only work if your RP is properly requesting an IP address via DHCP, and getting one. |
Bob Wilson, N6TV
#2821 On Fri, Feb 8, 2019 at 9:54 AM Sven SM6FMB <svempa42@...> wrote: I will look at this when I am in contact with RP1. Just now only U-Boot 2018.01 (Oct 20 2018 - 19:53:32 +0000) Model: Red Pitaya Board Board: Xilinx Zynq loading. Seems that I missing something! Where is the image!Closer look showed a problem with SD Card. No contact. Formated a new card and copied image to the card. Now I had a functional RP1 again. So, all problems are resolved now? Congrats. How do you get SparkSDR to work with a Red Pitaya / CWSL_Tee? I could not find documentation. Same technique as HDSDR, using Extio_CWSL, just one band at at time? For reference, I tried to get SDR-Console to work with the Red Pitaya using the same techniques used with HDSDR. Despite "OpenHPSDR" support, SDR-Console would not locate any of the receivers. It's kind of a shame as SDR-Console has the ability to show a waterfall display for all eight slices of a multi-band SDR. 73, Bob, N6TV |
Sven SM6FMB
#2822 Hi!Problem is solved and I am happy. Thank you for looking into the problem and guided me to the solution. SparkSDR commnication with Hermes Lite 2 and Red Pitaya is based on the orginal openHPSDR protocol. |
Bob Wilson, N6TV
#2823 Oh, so you are only running one app. at a time? Using CWSL_Tee, we can run CW Skimmer Server and RTTY Skimmer Server and multiple instances of HDSDRsimultaneously, all sharingthe same 8 band receiver stream from one RP. So, is there any way to use CWSL_Tee or ExtIO_CWSL with SparkSDR? 73, toggle quoted messageShow quoted text On Sat, Feb 9, 2019, 1:45 AM Sven SM6FMB <svempa42@...> wrote:
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Sven SM6FMB
#2824 Hi! On my HL2(12 fq) and RP1(16 fq), all applications, in total 28 fq running at the same time. RP2 running FT8(8 fq) at the same time. HL2 and RP1 running on a very powerful AMD with 8 cores. Which is needed on a RTTY contest weekend. 73 de Sven SM6FMB |
Bob Wilson, N6TV
#2825 OK, so where is the documentation that shows how to run both CW Skimmer Server and RTTY Skimmer Server and SparkSDR one RP, on 8 different bands, without using CWSL_Tee? Pavel's documentation does not explain it. 73, Bob, N6TV toggle quoted messageShow quoted text On Sat, Feb 9, 2019 at 7:51 AM Sven SM6FMB <svempa42@...> wrote:
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Bob Wilson, N6TV
#2826 I still do not understand your claims Sven. To be clear, I'm asking if you are somehow making all of these programs (RTTY Skimmer Server, CW Skimmer Server, and SparkSDR) share the same RP at the same time. I know you can run one program at a time on different SDRs, but that's not the question. To date, the only documented method of doing this is via CWSL_Tee, but you claim you are not using it at all, unless I've misunderstood something. 73, Bob, N6TV toggle quoted messageShow quoted text On Sat, Feb 9, 2019 at 8:34 AM Bob Wilson, N6TV <n6tv@...> wrote:
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Sven SM6FMB
#2827 Hi! Understand that you ask! It was not much correct in my last mail. HL2 running standalone on it's own IP address with old/new SparkSDR. Same as before! There is also a version of SparkSDR for RP. This version demand it's own RP Sorry to misslead you. 73 de Sven SM6FMB |
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